ศาลาชุมนุม

[Richard Wordingham]

Is เก๊ really pronounced as though it were spelt *เก๊ะ ? I can't hear the glottal stop myself. Also, it sounds quite different from เก๊ะ at http://dictionary.sanook.com/search/dic ... A%E0%B8%B0 .

[David and Bui]

The pronunciation of the vowel on this site and on Domnern-Sathienpong both sound long to me.

[Richard Wordingham]

On further digging, it looks like a bug or feature in the automatic transcription. It seems that sara e + mai tri or mai chattawa is automatically taken to be a short vowel. The rules by syllable type actually look quite complex. Have the rules yet reached the point where the policy should be to handle failures by individual override? I'll work out the rules by syllable type and look for examples later. (This does rather assume that the rules generally work out the syllable type.)

[Richard Wordingham]

I've looked into the possible combinations.

It seems that for sara e + mai chattawa, the decision should be long if in a truly open syllable (i.e. not dead), and short otherwise. It's not infallible, merely the best guess.

One could apply the same rule to sara e + mai tri. The only other case where it might be sensible to default to long is misspellings like เค๊ก for เค้ก.

The rule for sara e plus mai tho needs to be corrected so that low initial + dead implies long. If the vowel were short in such cases, one should simply write maitaikhu to get a high tone.

[ttapp]

เก๊ you pronounce it longer than เก๊ะ. It's a spoken language.You shouldn't use it in writing. เก๊ะ comes from Chinese word. When I was young I often heard people call เก๊ะ instead of ลิ้นชัก,now I don't hear it often. My family still use the word เก๊ะ since we have Chinese background.