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Describing someone is being 'transparent'

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Describing someone is being 'transparent'

Postby telstrareg » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:26 pm

I don't know if Thais have a way of saying something like; "You know, you're being very transparent".

For those not familiar with the use of transparent in this way, it is often a rebuke applied to someone who is unsuccessfully trying to conceal the true nature of their words or actions.

I don't know if โปร่งใส can be used in this case.
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Re: Describing someone is being 'transparent'

Postby David and Bui » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:28 pm

From "คลังคำ" by ดร. นววรรณ พันธุเมธา, page 313:

"เปดเผย ไม่ปิดบัง เช่น นั่งไนที่เปิดเผย; ทำเรื่องราวที่ปกปิดอยู่ให้ประกฏ เช่น เปิดเผยความในใจ"

Does this seem to indicate personal transparency?

As an aside, let's compare the RID definition of โปร่งใส with the definition in the "Dictionary of New Words, Volume 1":

1. RID: "มีสมบัติที่แสงผ่านได้และมองเห็นได้ตลอด. (. transparent). "

2. New Words: ". สจุรติ, ตรงไปตรงมา, เปดิเผยได,้ ตรวจสอบได,้ เชน โครงการนี้โปร่งใส รับรองไม่มีการรับสินบน."

It appears that the abstract, metaphoric meaning is a later development in Thai. Perhaps this meaning extends to the interpersonal definition as you are asking about. I like it.
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Re: Describing someone is being 'transparent'

Postby Tgeezer » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:31 am

“You know, you are being very transparent” more of a warning than a rebuke it seems to me, “I can see right through you” is a rebuke. However that is parlance and we differ, and so I fear will Thai differ in the way these thoughts are communicated.

I would stick to keeping it as simple as possible and this is why I think that.
Transparent is the feature, character, appearance, quality etc. of something, could be an literal; a vase, or abstract; a person. “I saw right through him instantly”. The listener works that out easily, whatever language they speak. They suggest a place to go with an ulteria motive, on whether it was selfish or unselfish would depend on whether it were a rebuke or not.
Most of us who speak some Thai sound like foreigners so why not say โปร่องใส especially since the latest information from David shows that The Royal Institute/Society etc. says that it was coined to translate English.
I have spent ages trawling through the RID only to find that I am ignoring the question which is; Assuming that I am right in my assumption, how do you propose using โปร่องใส in your Thai interpretation of “You know, you’re being very transparent”?
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Re: Describing someone is being 'transparent'

Postby telstrareg » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:19 pm

Thank you to all.
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